The unproffesional behavior at meetings and the filing of recall petitions by Noel Nightingale right after the board agreed to put the work out for bid was just too mafioso for my taste. They gave the work to Nightingales even though they were not the lowest bidder in the first round and they proved they could not be trusted to do the work honestly.
Remember, you can always call on Nightingales towing and service to repair your vehicles no matter what.... and if they are willing to do the work for the price they say in the quote Lisa Manzella quoted, than they should do fine.
I'm not sure the police should refer work to the Nightingales in the name of Shelby Residents after all the past issues.

The Nightingales have every right to be angry over the decision of the Board of Trustees.They worked long and hard and deserved to recieve the contract. There is no reason for the public to go along with this decision. If you are in a accident, show support to the Nightingales by demanding that they tow your car. In a free society and free market system, you still have that right to make that decision. Once the people of Shelby Township take a financial stance, the contract will be forced to gravitate to them. If you feel that they do a good, dont ask, but demand that they tow your car. Let the market dictate who recieves the contract.

There should be a job, after good. Sorry for typo.

I own a insurance agency and the average tow bill we recieve is $60. I average about 7 tow bills a week from multiple cities. Not sure where Mr Flynn got his data from.

I work in the financial world and I would also reject a quote that was really low compared to the others-Is just the way business is-A company has just lost the business would not even be on the bid list.

I thought what Mrs. Filar said at the meeting made sense. They won the bid last time not being the lowest quote, they had a year and a half to prove themselves worthy by fixing up their yard, buying all needed equipment but they didn't. Then they come in with this really low quote and it makes you wonder, were they really making a 50%+ profit on every tow yet they could not clean up their yard or purchase a larger tow truck? If they did not have the money to do these things in the past why would they have the money to keep their place open charging half the rates..... they kind of shot themselves in the foot.
Really, their behavior is atrocious at the meetings. I hope they get their act together and come back better and stronger but I believe we have already seen the Nightingale's at their BEST and it will only get WORSE with them from now on.
There is written proof in their invoices for work done at the townships referral that they billed for services not completed and not approved by the previous quote.

Again, I hope the tax payers of Shelby Twp wake up and vote these clowns out!!!! It is plain to see that the decision was made PRIOR to comments from the citizens.....Funny how Tricky Dick was the one to choose & hire the "expert consultant" and then wouldnt let the guy speak or answer questions at the meeting....funny how Tricky Dick wouldnt let anyone talk about prior contract with out interupting them but yet when someone was speaking out against the Nightingales he wouldnt say a word...GOD I hope you voters wake up.....this is a joke of a counsel..news media is having a field day....Shelby is the butt of alot of jokes and why???? Trick Dick & his band of merry followers!!!!

And I hope the nightigales and all of the other companies who put in bids sue the so called "expert" hired by Tricky Dick...both would have to answer questons in court, not like in Tricky Dicks court where he is king & his rules apply!!!!!

Russ Wiepert doesn't have the expertise to be appointed a consultant - He did the same garbage in Troy with a company that does business outside the city . Why isn't he working for Troy anymore ? They bring this guy in with no business background - His only other experience is conducting auctions and filing paperwork - He wasn't allowed to carry a gun in Troy - because he is so miserable he would probably shoot himself !

What I found to to funny was Mr.Turner has no problem paying more for towing.But pitches a B**** when A WORKING township employee buys 2 pair of boots.which as anyone knows working outside this time of year 1 pair might get wet so they have a back up pair.Just goes to show where he's coming from.

The board has acted properly to protect the citizens from a predatory company operating within our borders.
What about the added miscellaneous charges that were not supposed to be allowed by the quote in the contract signed by the Nightingale’s?
What about the contract being at will meaning at the will of the township board? Doesn’t any of this make any difference? Do we as taxpaying citizens have to put up with the yelling and bad behavior at township board meeting forever? What about us, the citizens?
You attack the consultant, you attack the board, you attack supervisor but you put no blame on the Nightingales who are the ones who yelled “recall” at the meeting when just the idea of allowing a competitive bid was brought up. The nightingales strayed from their quoted contract, not the township, not the consultant, so why is everyone else to blame but the Nightingales themselves. They faced a problem with defiance, denial and intimidation.
The actions of the Nightingales have brought suffering on their employees and their families, have broken years of trust their grandfather worked to build up, have turned the majority of citizens against a once respected company. Yet they still blame everyone else but themselves for their fate. Blame is a heavy weight to toss, it typically lands on the one who tries. Even if we blame everyone else but the Nightingales, nothing will regain their reputation, never.

How much will Mr.Wiepert get in his severence pay now that his services are no longer needed or is he a permenant employee now?

Matt this is not the only issue that was unjust.There are a lot more issues you just have some kind of hate for the nightingale that you will say anything to make them look bad.You must be obsessed with them to spit out all these accuastions that i'm sure you have any real proff of any wrong doing other that what Mr. Wiepert is claiming who by the way is getting paid thousands of dollars to make it go $tathaki$'s way.Have you ever gone to the Nightingale's and hear thier side? Before you sat and write all the outrageous accusations!

Mr. Delise, it’s in print, not an accusation. The invoices were submitted from Nightingales Towing. They added on miscellaneous charges unspecified and not allowed in the quote.
I don’t sit in anyone’s camp. I look at the situation decide how it can help or hurt the majority and then speak my mind. How is changing towing contractors bad for the taxpayers? I admit, I feel sorry for those that will lose their jobs, but that is Mr. Nightingale’s doing, not the board. I feel sorry for the family that will never learn and will stick to their business plan all the way to jail. Yes, I predict jail time.
Most important Mr. Delise, what I write is meaningless, no one reads this. It’s only important to people who are so misguided and misplaced sense of self-worth.

If you're such an expert,its no wonder they didn't hire to as an consultant.

@HTTP://SHELBYTWPTRUTH.BLOGSPOT.COM - Just saw the comment now and I sent the user a warning - The same warning I sent you. Please do not use this username again or I will ban it. Thank you.

After watching the last two board meetings and witnessing the unprofessionalism displayed by the members of nightingales service, I have doubt that in my mind that the board made the correct decision when they cancelled the towing contract.

It is understandable that it is an emotion issue for the neightengales , however, the continuing disruptions from the family and their friends and at the board meetings is getting old very quick.

As a 48 year resident of Shelby township I have used nightingale's service many times over the years, unfortunately, I am now considering my patronage to their station and about to take my business elsewhere.

You people STILL dont get it.....Tricky Dick is building his own little kingdom where what he wants & says goes.....

Tricky Dick hired the "expert" on his own without input from the board...hand picked this "expert" who he wouldnt let speak at the meeting...wonder why......

Why wouldnt the "board" choose the lowest bidder??? save the residents money....the "added extra costs" you complain about, you dont think Ruhle's will charge them? those costs are probably already built inot the quoted price so you dont see it....you call nightingales "predatory" how so???? Matt are you going to request that background checks be done on ALL of Ruhle's employees????
The members of the Nightingale family have every right to be upset, the amount of service, both thru the towing and thru volunteering, FOP,Kiwanas, etc etc, they have put forth and to be railroaded out by Tricky Dick and his cronies, i would be more then a little upset as well

Kermit, there are constructive ways to handle rejection... not yelling and intimidating people who support the board.
These are some of the thing I would have done if I was in the Nightingale situation.
First... join the DDA and and them to sponsor a artist rendition of how to make my property fit into the master ideal.... would not cost Nightingales a thing but would show they care and support Shelby's Down Town.
Second: maybe pay to have some of the DDA ideas implimented.
Third: Find and hire their own towing expert from out of the area, from a bigger city like Las Vegas... yes, this might cost something but if an expert who is more qualified and more impartial gives a positive impression about the overcharging, it would carry weight.
Fourth: Come to the meeting or include in your quote the purchase order for a larger tow truck needed in the quote..... didn't even have to buy it yet, just show intent to handle the proposed need of the quote.
Fifth: Tell people to stop yelling and intimidating board members and supporters.
Did you see John Nightingale threaten board members and flip the middle finger at the last board meeting..... yeah... people really appreciate this kind of behavior from business proffesionals (sarcasm).
Like I have said in the past, the nightingales need a PR person.... and I'm not in the professio..... I'm just a citizen that is shocked by their behavior.

Feel free to use my ideas, just give me some credit for caring.... and if Nightingales need other SMART ideas on how to handle this situation please ask..... my advice and rants are free.

Constructive was such as what holding up signs at the meetings? Silently disrupting the meetings? you are no different Matt...just your tactics are.....

Again...Trcky Dick hand picked the so called expert, why wouldnt he let him speak & answer questions at the meeting....i will tell you why...Mr Expert isnt an expert, the nightingales werent the only citizens making some board members look bad, but yet you dont mention them, you just out down a family that has given alot to this community....more so in one week then you will do all year Matt....

I had a dream that Mr. Dick retired. Wish it was true. Dictators don't sit well in my book.

It is really amazing the lack of intelligence of some residents in Shelby Township(Berz) and some of them want to run for office. I hope next meeting we do not have to see the parade of Berz, Holeton, Delise, Churchill , Heron, the bully cop and any of the nightingale family-they all really make this township look like a bunch of high school drop outs

Thank you Mr. Peters, The group you mention constantly say I'm the only complainer and try desperately to shut me up. You should come to a meeting and let the bullies know what the other 95% of residents think. Just because you don't come to a meeting and voice your opinion doesn't mean you're blind to what's going on.

First of all, everyone of the people that you mentioned in this post as "trouble makers" have every right to voice their opinions at a public meeting. Some of them are veterans who fought for the freedom that you two take for granted everyday. Secondly, its a beautiful thing if they want to run for public office. It is every citizens right under the constitution to run for positions in the government if they see fit to serve us. No where in the constitution does it say that you have to have a Ph.D or a law degree to run for a position in government. They are the true voices of the people and know what needs to be done. Do not judge them because of a lack of public speaking ability. Abraham Lincolns first speech was on a tree stump and there were people, just like you, tearing him apart because of his "grand" ideas. America is the market place of ideas. If corrupt politicians and the police dictate what is and isnt said at a public meeting, we become a walmart. Both of you think about that for awhile. For the record, neither I or a member of my family has ever told anyone to shut up at those meetings. On the contrary, I (we) love to hear everyone speak. Even the elusive Mr. Grot.

MR. Holeton, you are a fair speaker, you have never threatened peopel with physical violence as the others do. I believe it was your support of the others that puts you in the bunch with thugs because if you approve of or allow bullies to run the meetings you are just as bad as the bullies.
You attack our right to free speach and our opinion in the same paragraph you express others the same rights.... is it only OK for you to express your opinion when you don't agree with others? The rights of thugs are no more important than the rights of the meek to speak up at meetings.

Like Mr. Holeton I like the Nightingales. I also like Mrs. Manzella and Bob Leman.
Call me part of a gang or a clan. Refer to me as one of the malcontents. I really could care less. I'm certainly not trying to hide any association with anyone. I'm looking forward to contributing to and helping Bob Leman win his campaign and become the next supervisor of Shelby Township.
Call me what you will. I am proud to be a part of the Nightingale/Leman group. At least we stand up for what we feel is right. Everyone has the right to free speech!
John Holeton gets up and speaks his opinion. What has he done wrong. What category does Matt and Bill Peters fall into. Are they in Ricks gang or clan?

By the way, there are dozens of "Matt's" in Shelby Township. So call me Mr. Guarnieri and spell it correctly please. Oh, wait, I forgot, you have no manners or respect for anyone who doesn't fall in line with your viewpoints....
I give respect, and respectfully answer all comments, maybe that's why people listen to me. Sadly respect and intelligent conversation are difficult to come by with Mr. Berz's ... what did he call it... his "clan".
I love an intelligent debate... first one to lose his temper is the loser. By the looks of the meetings you can see who the losers are and always will be.

I would stay on and debate more but you bore me.
Have a great night.

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I did show up at a meeting and I did voice my concerns in a manner that was acceptible under "Robert Rules" and do submit blogs that are deemed acceptible under the guidelines listed by the "Huffington Post" the problem is Marina, the editor of the Shelby Utica Patch is extremely biased about what she thinks is acceptable blogging. She allows Mr. Delise and others to say horribly untrue and demeaning statements in post but will not allow my honest opinion to be posted as a blog. I signed up to blog about the township meetings and provide the information and opinions on that behavior. When is the last time you have seen a post about a meeting that did not have Lisa Manzella or Nick Nightingale's side of the issue...... none... Marina won't let anyone blog the other side. She does not want to upset herb friends. I inform people of truths with my opinions.
Would you like some more unbiased truths:
Lisa Manzella will be running against Mike Flynn for Treasurer this August. I would like to blog about this and mention both candidates voting record over the last 3 years but Marina, the editor of the Patch will never let facts interfere wit HER opinion and will never allow the readers to here the truth.

Sorry for the typos.. my phone spelling stinks.

Sorry If I offended anyone. My comments have nothing to do with towing, elections or speaking. I like to hear everyone speak and there opinions I just would like to hear something that is logical and a benefit to the people of Shelby Township. I like to hear opinions based on fact. Maybe my hearing is bad but I did not hear to many facts on their opinions -except Holeton he does back his opinions with facts

Bill,
Matt "Guarnieri" seems to have your back for you even if you didn't want that.
Yes, I say things on here and on the Patch Facebook page but I can guarantee you never saw me at any meeting as your "parade" comment would suggest. Just wanted to clarify that. Also I have no interest in running for any political position unless it's somewhere in the Caribbean. I also want to reiterate what I said about Mr. Heron. I met him recently in the grocery store. We talked for almost a half hour. What a kind gentleman I found him to be. If someone like him can't stand up and say his piece then we have a real problem. Other than that no harms and no fouls! Have a nice day.

I thought we had possibly lost one of our bloggers this morning but I see he's back.

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In response to an earlier blog here I will say that Supervisor Stathakis has not been charged with any documented case of corruption. The supervisor knows how to manipulate the system and stay just below the radar.
On a ethical, moral and transparency level he has failed badly. I don't know how he can sit up there and look people in the eye. He doesn't have any plan to listen to anyone other than himself. All he ever says is "I appreciate your comment or thanks for coming down". He wants that person out of his face as quickly as possible. When Nick Nightinmgale attempted to ask Mr Weipert a question it looked like Mr Weipert wanted to answer and was ready to stand up. Supervisor Stathakis told him not to answer. So you see it's not one big corruption charge that matters it's a combination of all of the other moral and ethical issues that make a difference to the citizens. Many people who I talk to have absolutely no faith in Rick Stathakis anymore. They want someone who doesn't act like he's taking sides against the public. By suppressing people like the supervisor has done he has turned a good portion of the voting public against him. I truly hope the sneaky politics are over for a while and the township and the people can begin to move ahead and get things in order for August when the people WILL have a chance to be heard.

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