Shelby Officials Trade Barbs Over Towing Lawsuit (VIDEO)
Against the advice of Shelby Township attorney Rob Huth, Treasurer Michael Flynn and Trustee Nick Nightingale spoke publicly about the lawsuit pending between the township and Nightingale Services, Inc.
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Emotions ran high at Tuesday's Shelby Township board of trustees meeting as Treasurer Michael Flynn spoke at length about the "ethical questions" raised by Trustee Nick Nightingale's presence on the board given his family's active lawsuit against the township.
"While I can understand how Mr. Nightingale feels he has been wronged, I cannot understand how anyone can ethically serve and sue simultaneously," Flynn said.
Nightingale Services Inc., Shelby Township’s former towing contractor, filed a federal lawsuit against the township and five board members in June 2012, claiming their contract was cancelled as punishment for the business owners spearheading recall efforts against several township officials.
Shelby Township attorney Rob Huth interrupted Flynn about one minute into his statements to object to discussion of what remains pending litigation.
"You're going to finish, you're going to do what you want, and I'm going to say for the record that I don't think you should be talking about the lawsuit," advised Huth.
Nightingale defended his position on the board with the reminder that the lawsuit was filed prior to his campaign and election to the office of township trustee.
"I was very transparent with the residents," Nightingale said. "I did not mislead anyone. I was not unethical."
ashamedtobeashelbyresident
8:06 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Mr. Flynn looked like a cry baby (again) at the meeting. Let the justice system do its work, Mr.Flynn. If the court finds that there was no violation of the contract, the case will be tossed and the judge probably has the discretion to award attorney's fees to the township. Your tirade makes you sound scared. All people have access to the courts- it's one of the things that make our country great. Let the courts decide. Let the people decide if Nick should be re elected when the time comes. What are you afraid of?
ashamedtobeashelbyresident
8:09 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
And another thing. It is shameful that no one on the board (save Mr. Huth) called for order on his personal attack on a fellow elected official. Shame on Mr. Stathakis and his henchmen - and woman.
W.F.729
8:29 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Flynn: "I cannot understand how anyone can ethically serve and sue simultaneously,"
Flynn should ask some of the incumbent board members.
W.F.729
8:31 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Flynn and company don't even understand the word "ethics" so I can easily see how a former male model could be confused by democracy and ethics.
Sarah Franklin
10:04 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
By dissecting your comment above you are effectively suggesting-- other board members are also enaged in lawsuits, that it is accepted practice... and thus why call out the Nick Nightingale lawsuit .
How about taking the higher road and considering the idea that if ANYONE in local government is concurrently suing the taxpayers (meaning you and I) while at the same time representing us, we should do whatever we can to fight them tooth and nail. Logic being, 'no one' in government can have it both ways at the same time.
W.F.729
8:34 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
If Nightingale didn't have a case the judge would toss it. As it stands, there is a case. And one of our elected officials is going against expensive legal advice to further hurt Shelby T's chances in court. I guess it is hard to keep a motor mouth shut, especially one charged up on coca-cola.
Dana Horton
3:05 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Please remember who started all of the lawsuit problems in the beginning.
I was Mr Stathakis who tried to pull the Nightingale towing contract for personal gain.
At Tuesday’s meeting he sat there like a mute little boy who didn’t understand what was going on. The writer W.F.729 summed it up just right. If there wasn’t a case it would have been tossed out. The fact is that there is indeed a case. Another fact is that Mr Flynn just added to it for the benefit of the Nightingale family by using slanderous language in public. Someone needs to tighten his leash and curb him.
Sarah Franklin
9:46 am on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
I agree the Shelby Board is frought with personalities that exude arrogance, immaturity and uncontrollable passion. But this subject is about "ETHICS" --whether it is morally right, ethical and just that a community Board Member sues the same people he/she has taken an oath to represent at the same time. And I think the honest answer is NO! Nick Nightingale is the fuel in the fire that will soon bring this community to a boil. This festering issue of their tow truck contract being rescinded for overcharging (screwing) the taxpayers of Shelby should be a cut and dry closed decision. They milked the Township Dairy too long, got their hands caught up in too many udders and they were fired - end of story! Now here we are 15 months later with this same culprit representing the people, and along with his father last night, once again making fools of themselves trying to garner public support .This lawsuit has already cost Shelby over $50,000 to defend and we( the taxpayers) are on the hook for this bill. So, for those of you that support them I can only ask what is your logic? For those against I say lets get a movement to RECALL THE TOW TRUCK DRIVER... and ban his relatives from commenting on this case in a Community Government forum. Besides unethical values, Nightingale's abrasive behavior clearly demonstrates his goal to turn Shelby meetings into a side show over the next 4 years. As one resident stated last night, the apple always falls next to the tree. Well said!
RodneyG
11:24 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Sarah Franklin, I've read your comments on various Patch pages. You are a fascist! I've read where other commentators have called you a fascist. Didn't think much of it. But your comment, "ban his relatives from commenting on this case in a Community Government forum" paints you clearly as a fascist. Should we take away Nightingale's freedom of religion, too? Sarah, this country is headed toward tyranny and oppression and people like you are to blame. How many times do you have to call for fascist actions before the people stop realizing your a fascist?
Taxed Enuff Already
1:05 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
I'm still not clear on something, maybe this has already been spelled out and I missed it somewhere. Let's say, for the sake of argument, that Nightingale Service is awarded x amount of dollars as a settlement. Let's forget everything else for the moment and just pretend, ok?
In that event, who actually pays? Some insurance company? If the insurance company refuses to pay, do those named in the lawsuit, Stathakis et al, pay personally? Some, all? Does some or all of the settlement come out of the Township general fund?
yourmom30
1:30 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
This lawsuit was filed before the election, yet the citizens voted him in. There is a reason that he was voted in. Let the court case run its course, and if the CITIZENS (not the exisiting board) decide that Mr. Nightingale has not done his job correctly, he can very easily be voted out of office.
Sarah Franklin
2:21 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Consider the thought that the vast majority of voters in the recent election acted expressly on the 'blind perception' that here was this young nightingale in shining armor coming to the Township rescue replete with noble grandeur and promises of pristine transparency to rid the evils hidden beneath this veil of perceived Township corruption.
Then fast forward 100 days and see how many of the same folks are singing the same tune. I would love to see a current poll of Township residents where two questions are posed: how many had any clue at all that he was forging full speed ahead with this lawsuit and how many, after knowing this, will be standing in line to effectively fork over money (as a tax-paying resident) if the lawsuit wins.
Matt Guarnieri
1:35 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
The taxpayers pay.... All actions done in the official capacity as representatives of the township are the townships responsibility... Taxpayers pay.
Don't forget, we are being sued by another towing contractor because the township awarded the towing contract to Nightingales in the first place.
Nightingales are all crooks in my book, plain and simple. Self-serving crooked businessmen in the same category as the owners of the Citgo and Woodstock down the road. We really don't need them smelling up the board room any longer..... Recall Nightingale!!!!!
Taxed Enuff Already
2:23 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
So are you saying that if the Township is found to be at fault, or they settle out of court, the Treasurer writes Nightingale Service a check out of the General Fund?
RodneyG
11:28 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Taxed Enuff Already, I think maybe an insurance company might cover the legal costs. Hmmm. Insurance company.
Thomas Delise
11:15 am on Sunday, March 3, 2013
In order to have a lawsuit,one would have to be created,Matt do you have al ist of those people that created this lawsuit as I recall those people were reelected to to board.Plain and simple!
Matt Guarnieri
3:20 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
I think Flyn was pointing out how unethical Nightingale is.... Against attorney advice but don't worry, there won't be a second lawsuit, Flyn was speaking the truth and voicing his opinion of such truth. Flynn echos the sentiment of most taxpayers in the township.
Salestim
3:23 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
As a new resident but someone who has followed shelby politics for some time I always seem to be amazed at some of the board members. Flynn keeps ranting even after the city attorney voices against it. What is the reason to have a board attorney if he isn't going to listen! Next Flynn will be complaining that Nightingale has two lawsuits against the city. Flynn is not the type of person I want representing me and my family.
Dana Horton
12:43 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Well said. Me neither.
Jen36
5:38 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
It is amazing to me that Mr. Flynn was allowed to personally attack Mr. Nightingale. It is not Mr. Nightingale that is personally suing the city, it is his family's company. It was put before the people as it was clearly written in the newspapers as to what actions the towing company was taking. I am completely disgusted with the actions of the board members (minus Mr. Huth) for not stopping this "show" from Flynn. If anything, Flynn should resign as he can't keep his thoughts about his fellow board member to himself. Props to Mr. Nightingale for not saying more, as I am sure I would have.
Matt Guarnieri
8:17 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Nightingale can't even read from a scripted rant properly, I doubt he could get 5 words of a rebuttal out without sounding stupid.
Sarah Franklin
8:38 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Huh? You make it sound as if the building brick and mortar or company trucks are behind crafting their lawsuit? Reality check -- the owners are suing us (Township taxpayers) and Nick Nightingale is an owner of Nightingale Towing; so carefully connect the dots and get your facts correct before espousing nonsense. And as far as clearly written in newspapers... I challenge you to produce one article... one statement ... one campaign flyer... one verbal promise captured on tape or any other evidence that states their lawsuit would be pursued if elected into office. You will find nothing to back that up! If anything to the contrary; the guy ran for office under the pretense that this type of clandestine behavior was wrong and not transparent!
Dana Horton
12:44 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Mr Nightingale is more of a man than Mr Flynn could ever wish to be.
Satori
8:50 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
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Satori
9:56 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
The Circus continues. While this Two Ring Circus plays out, the Shelby Taxpayers get to foot the bill for this litigation. Conservative estimates on what this mess is going to cost the taxpayers could exceed $100,000 .
Whoever wins or looses this lawsuit, the Shelby Taxpayers WILL ULTIMATELY LOOSE in the end and be on the hook for defending the township against this action by the Nightengales. The only ones that will win are the lawyers. Who is right and who is wrong will be decided by the judge and possibly a jury. You and I the Taxpayers get to finance all of this because the Townships Liability Insurance will not cover this sort of action. As a taxpayer that is paying this tab, I have to ask myself... Whose interest is being represented here ? I always follow the money.
A $1,000,000 lawsuit is one heck of a lot of towed car and gets my attention for sure. I think that one could tow cars from now until the day they died and not make $1,000,000. Having watched this unfold over the last several years, it seems to me that this has less and less to do about a towing contract and more about personalities, egos, and not being satisfied until a pound of flesh can be hung up for all to see in the Town Square. I would submit to you last nights exchange at the Board Meeting. The thing is....the price of addmission is not going to free for this. So enjoy the show. Pass the popcorn and the vasaline. Like it or not, we the Shelby Taxpayers are all involved now.
Taxed Enuff Already
10:19 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Here's my prediction. The towing lawsuit will be settled out of court and Nightingale Towing will be awarded a judgement. Over the summer the board meetings become increasingly out of hand until something really nasty happens. Soon after, a recall effort against Nick Nightingale will be joined and he will be recalled. Huth's legal firm will continue to be paid $15k per month. And everyone lives happily ever after.
Sarah Franklin
11:03 pm on Wednesday, February 20, 2013
Great prediction and I would add a 100% probability that Huth's law firm will continue to be paid $15K+ per month, regardless of the lawsuit outcome. How good are you at predicting movement in the QQQ's. I'm charting a continued Fibinacci 38.2 retracement to break 65.55 before leading to a bounceback. Got a prediction? :-)
Dana Horton
2:58 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
Everyone is so very proud of you.
Dana Horton
2:56 pm on Thursday, February 21, 2013
After witnessing township treasurer Mr Flynn berate Mr Nightingale and his family in public I hope the Nightingale family sues the pants off of the township. Mr Flynn should have listen to attorney Huth and stopped while he was ahead. Mr Flynn has now steeped over the line and he will probably be made to pay for it.
Let us not forget who started this whole problem in the beginning. Mr Stathakis tried to do his friend at Utica/Vandyke Towing a little favor. It blew up in his face. Attorney Huth had to bail Mr Stathakis out of this mess. Now there is another lawsuit against Mr Stathakis and the township by Utica/Vandyke towing for breach of contract. Mr Stathakis started this whole proceeding and now he needs to stand up and take responsibility. Instead he hides behind attorney Huth and the sniveling little Flynn. Take some time to find out just how many lawsuits Mr Stathakis has against him since he entered office originally. It’s all available through the Freedom of Information Act.
Sarah Franklin
9:36 am on Friday, February 22, 2013
Comments as to who said what to who... when and why such mess was started in the first place, trying to re-assign blame or saying lawsuits were started before the final vote was in on November 2nd are all irrelevent.
There is one and only one issue here; People have the right to sue and people have the right to govern and can purse either course at their own discretion... but you can't do both at the same time to the same audience. It adds a whole new meaning to the term unethical and the phrase breach of fiduciary responsibility.
In my opinion, one of the following needs to happen as long as this Nightingale lawsuit remains inactive:
1) Nick Nightingale should resign from the Board permanently or at a bare minimum ask for an unpaid leave of absence until his lawsuit is resolved and then petition to be reinstated.
2) Shelby Board should take action to do the same if Nick Nightingale does not take the initiative (Assuming they have the power to do this which may not be the case)
3) Last and least, as this Township has had it up to its ears with recalls, if 1 or 2 does not come to pass then once again start up the recall machine to get out the required vote and get him expelled from office.
4) Finally, if these actions don't get quick traction, there are several investigative news reporters that should be contacted. They surely will jump on a story where an ethics breach in local government is once again the topic du jour of the day.
Satori
12:42 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
The statement "I hope the Nightingale family sues the pants off the township." is like saying...... I hope that the Nightengale's sue the pants off of me and take me and my family to the cleaners. If they were wronged or dicriminated against by the actions of our represenatives, they should be made whole. I only am questioning this $1,000,0000 pay day that you, your family and me that are going to have to pay out. Maybe you're in favor of making every family in this Township to suffer with less and less while the our residents hard earned money makes someone an instant millionaire. I don't think that they earned $1,000,000 in the last 20 years of towing cars period. Seems like a little overkill and vendicitive to me. I may be wrong but be careful for what you ask for....you just may get you wish.
RodneyG
11:35 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Sarah, stop trying to confuse readers with your babble. Sarah: "People have the right to sue and people have the right to govern and can purse either course at their own discretion... but you can't do both at the same time to the same audience." WHY NOT? So you are saying Nick is not doing both because it "can't" be done? Or you wish people couldn't do both? Sarah, I suggest you relocate to North Korea where your preferred way of government and life is in full force.
Dana Horton
12:46 pm on Friday, February 22, 2013
Silly little man.
MP Smith
8:43 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Really amazing how the supervisor picks and chooses who he allows to slam board members and go off on a tangent during a meeting...............amazing
Nancy Smith
9:46 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Mr. Flynn was advised by the Shelby Township's attorney, Gary Huth, to discontinue publicly talking about the pending lawsuit.
Mr. Flynn didn't even pause to consider the legal advice of their own counsel.
Red flag to me!
It seems to me that Mr. Flynn had his own personal agenda in mind.
Bet you just cost yourself and the township even more legal costs with your "runaway train" speech.
Sarah Franklin
10:36 am on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Oh please. Damned if you do damned if you don't! If it were up to the lawyers no one would ever say anything for fear of repisal. Go back and listen to Flynn's rant word for word. Nothing he said has any legal ramifications; he communicated that a sitting Board member is suing and representing the same people at the same time based on fact, exempt of prejudicial slander and even backed up by Nightingale's own rebuttal statements.
This message has to resonate in this Community. I bet most people who voted for Nightingale were not aware he was going to bring his lawsuit along into office. And for those that did, their last name was either Nightingale or they likely aren't a taxpayer who will pay to defend this suit. And to our overpaid Township Attorney, perhaps you should spend part of the $15,000 per month paid to your firm defining talking points that 'can be communicated' (by any Board Member on sensitive topics) instead of using scare tactics that all standing lawsuits are off limits. That is outrageous!
Satori
4:41 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Maybe those commenting on the Townships legal retainer of $15,000 think about that figure a little bit deeper. Let's look at what really is the issue here. The lawsuit of $1,000,000. amount and the law. I'm wondering if any of you have ever been sued or have had the pleasure of suing for a $1,000,000. Representing the daily business of ALL the Townships Legal possible pitfalls for $15,000 is not exorbitant or excessive. Stop confusing the issue here my dear Sarah. It's usually a 33% 66% split or more. Do the math. 33% 0f $1,000,000 is $333,000. Maybe you would like to hire the cheepest attorney around ?? Or maybe you feel should all be working for $10. an hour and employers should only hire us if we are willing to work for $9 bucks an hour ? I not sure if you shop at Walmarts and expect the same quality and price when you purchase something at Partridge Creek? Or maybe you do? To most thinking residents, your comments are very telling.
Sarah Franklin
5:52 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Satori... what blog were you reading anyway? <LOL> Last comment on the Township attorney (if you read it) had but one point; for our Township Attorney to "guide Board Members on what they can say/not say about pending lawsuits" instead of taking the position that residents don't need to know anything and that Board Members should look like a deer in the headlights when pending law suit topics arise.
I think most taxpayers want to know what lawsuits are active in theTownship, as it is their money on the line to defend these suits. (Nightingale suit one example). That is all part of local government being transparent. Lawsuits should not be treated as secretive voodoo subjects. Here is a novel idea for Mr Huth:
How about a quarterly update (with Powerpoint overview) providing summary of each outstanding lawsuit pending against the Township; who is plaintiff, what are suit 'basics', what specific performance is being demanded as part of suit, if money requested (how much), projected cost to defend and finally what is status? With this type of effort at least everyone in the Community has a broad understanding of lawsuits in the system and where they are in the resolution process with added benefit that the Attorney controls the communication process. If blogs like this help those in local government come up with ideas for issues they can't figure out on their own, instead of always trying to slam personalities and opinions of others, every one would be a whole lot better off.
Satori
5:58 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
Fair enough.... Point Taken.
judy Martin
6:50 pm on Sunday, February 24, 2013
There you go again Sarah,bad mouthing Nick Nightingale,I hope with all my heart they win the suit.They have served this community almost 50 years.Let Stathakis do without a deputy mayor.we got the money,You folks voted all the good old boys back in office,now your going to live with it.Flynn should resign,the remarks were unfounded,he should apologize to Nick.,And no I dont know him or his family,and dont work for them.But Sarah,like I said you cant change stupid!!!
todd b
6:25 am on Monday, February 25, 2013
judy, you are living proof that shelby has too many trailer parks. nobody in their right mind wants to pay for somebody else's lawsuit. you have to be either real stupid or joking in which case i don't see your humor.
Dana Horton
9:24 pm on Monday, February 25, 2013
Flynn should resign.
Shelbynurse
11:04 pm on Tuesday, February 26, 2013
I saw this on Facebook and had to comment. The lawsuit is a separate issue and should NOT have been brought up at a township meeting. This shows Mr. Flynn's lack of experience in business AND law. The majority of people voted for Mr. Nightingale. I think Mr. Flynn should be careful because he is about to potentially add slander to that lawsuit. Being involved in HIPPA myself, we know better to EVER bring anything like that up, especially in a public forum. Are you kidding me Mr. Flynn? Hmm
judy Martin
3:24 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Hi Todd B,
NoI dont live in a trailer park,I didnt think I was real stupid,But some body started this crap and somebody will pay the lawsuit.He has every right to bring it on.I pay for everything else,why not this,.I pay extra for Detroit,the Zoo,Smart Bus.Art institute.
None of this I like,but I have no choice,since all the do gooders dont mind paying for it,they ,will just add it to your taxes every year.
Dana Horton
5:59 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Has Mr Flynn come up with a resignation date yet? He will still be part of the lawsuit no matter what. The punitive damages should be even better. Mr Flynn needs to run back home to mommy and daddy where he is coddled and understood. He wants to be a big boy buts it’s a big mean world out there for the little fella.
Matt Guarnieri
8:15 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
See, now I think of Nightingale as the coddled, spoiled brat who throws a fit and sues when things didn't go his way. How else do you explain his behavior?
Shelbynurse
10:45 pm on Wednesday, February 27, 2013
Matt, if the lawsuit were bogus or did not have any merit, it would be thrown out of court. We do have a pretty elaborate legal system and rightfully so. Do people take advantage of it? Umm yes, watch the afternoon commercials. However, some people have legit claims and have the right to sue. Do I think they handled it well while there were deciding on a towing company? Not so much. Personally, I would have quietly obtained an attorney and not make a fuss. Mr Flynn did EXACTLY what he is complaining the Nightingales did by acting like a "not so informed" public servant. Just my two cents
Matt Guarnieri
6:48 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
The lawsuit hasn't got to the point of being dismissed yet but when it does, I will let you know.
Leman was settled by the insurance company, Nick's won't be, he is a crooked business man and probably a dishonest politician. Why isn't he defending himself on here.... oh yeah, he's a coward too. Maybe his mommy will defend him, she;s a hoot,
Bingo
8:03 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Matt-- Nightingale does not defend himself publicly because only a moron (see Flynn) would discuss an ongoing case in public.
Macomb Rocker
2:06 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Matt, Face it. Nightengales have merit and a right to sue. The public elected Nightengale. I'm suprised the IT contractor that was terminated for standing up against Flynns lie that he was hacked isn't sueing. They were handled much like the Nightengales. Flynn acts like a little prissy girl had an outburst and should pay for it. He was advised by a attorney for a reason, to shut his girly pie hole. And you the self proclaimed "hero of Shelby Twp" bow down to this egotistic part of Kwame Stathekis band of lackeys? This is nothing but a vendatta against people who stand up to the King and his Court. And by the majority who have blogged on this subject, you and Sarah are the minority.
todd b
2:46 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Au contraire.
matt, satori and sarah are the only ones that have made any intelligent comments on this thread. and your comment above is just downright mean, very immature and slanderous. as for everyone else here i bet they are related one way or another to the trustee suing the Township. i would be shocked if more than 3 out of 100 tax-paying Shelby residents support this lawsuit. conversely i would also bet that 97% of the same tax-paying residents will support a countersuit when the township wins to collect the $100-$200K+ needed to defend it. that is the justice i want to see.
Bingo
8:13 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Todd B-- you do sound an awful lot like Sarah and Matt in that you just do not get it. You don't understand how the system works. This is not communist China. This is America. People can sue. The Township can countersue Nick if it wants to. I support Nick. I think he was dicked over. And yet, I don't care if the Township sues Nick. Whatever. That's how the system works. It seems to me Sarah/Matt are trying to make a gigantic deal over something that is relatively small. Shelby's Insurance will cover the settlement. the bigger issue is how corrupt the Cherry Creek deal appears to be.
Macomb Rocker
7:10 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Todd, are you Mr. Flynn writing as Todd. Lawsuit is not bogus. There is a right to sue. I'm not any meaner than what Matt stated in his blog about Mr. Nightengale a couple of blogs before mine right Mr. Blog Moniter?
Macomb Rocker
7:12 am on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Todd, Au Contraire? Really?! Sounds like you come from gay Paris.
Matt Guarnieri
6:45 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Nice personal attack from a little boy hiding behind an alias.... just like Nick hiding behind his daddy and mommy at the board meetings..... if you want to see mean, google Nick Nightingale on Youtube... makes me laugh every time.
Bingo
8:28 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
If anyone reading Patch wants to see mean, look up Matt Guarnieri AKA Shelby Citizen. Matt's mean streak is so obese it has diabetes.
Matt put up a website attacking a Police Officer (rumor has it was retribution for something to do with child molestation--not on the officers part;). Matt put up a negative website attacking an elected official (Manzella) and he advertized it by intentionally causing a major scene at a board meeting, which coincidentally his friend and former Patch editor was able to videotape (sounds like it was planned to me). Matt even uses Nazi images to promote his hate. While you're on youtube make sure you watch Shelby Citizen's videos. The video's of "citizen" Stathakis campaigning before Maccarone years ago are classic.
Dana Horton
5:46 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
The Nightingales are anything but coddled. They all work very hard at their family business. Mr Flynn on the other hand is a momma’s boy. This treasurer position is probably the first real paycheck he’s actually received in his forty some years. It’s a good thing that daddy had a good position with ITC to help subsidize his little nipper.
Matt Guarnieri
6:40 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
Wait, I don't see Flynn's Father coming to his rescue at board meetings, I see Nick's dad and family, since he can't fight his own battles ... and why hasn't nick bothered to reimburse all those citizens his company over billed, Flynn's not accused of over billing anyone. Nick is a crooked business man and probably a crooked politician. Honest people don't need their daddy's to defend them.
Wait, Nick never worked a hard day in his life, he works for his daddy in his grand daddy's business, Nick never did an original thing in his life, His mama and his aunt defend him on here, he is coddled, severely coddled.
Bingo
8:33 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Matt--didn't you just recently move out of your mom's basement? And you want to talk about coddled? The last time I checked, Nick worked for his dad. Matt-- If you ran a half-way house for recovering pedophiles would you want one of your employees publicly defending your company, or would you as the owner of the company do the public defending?
Matt Guarnieri
6:52 pm on Thursday, February 28, 2013
I'm thinking Nightigale see Flynn as a real threat and this is why his family is on here defending him, no one who actually followed local politics and knows the truth would defend the weasels who over billed hundreds of citizens out of thousands of dollars. Me, I FOIA-ed the towing bills and saw for myself the over billing, so I speak from the side of truth.
Bingo
8:35 am on Friday, March 1, 2013
Matt-- are you too busy running your million dollar freight company to organize a class action lawsuit against Nightingale Towing?
Shelbynurse
2:04 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
I personally am not related to anyone on the board. I live in the 24 and Shelby area and I saw this video clip on Facebook from a friend that also lives in Shelby. I am very close to my neighbors who ALL think the towing bid was mishandled. They told ME that the Nightingales have been a part of this community for many many years and they all love them. I do not have an opinion one way or another as I leave my elected officials to do the best job they can in making decisions on how to spend our money. I commented on Mr. Flynn's behavior as I have a right to (being a tax payer) and how inappropriate it was. I really would have loved to get involved with Shelby community but after what I have witnessed in the last 4 years of being a citizen, no way. I am saddened by the amount of immature, outspoken, romper room type of antics I see on the Shelby TV. My husband (who has been a resident for over 20 years) and I used to watch it for entertainment and would comment and say "oooh there he is..." and laugh. Now it's no longer funny, but sad. Amazing how one or two individuals can make such a joke out of a municipality. I hope the Supervisor puts an end to the 2 (that I know of) citizens that make this place so hostile.
Sarah Franklin
9:00 pm on Friday, March 1, 2013
Anyone having any intelligent thought about why it is unethical to sue and serve the same people simultaneously have been slammed with insults both here and in other Patch blogs. Other comments supporting this lawsuit are just crude, in poor taste or total truth distortions:
- "You are a fascist" .................................RodneyG
- "Suggest you relocate to North Korea".. RodneyG
- "Sound like you are gay from paris" .......Macomb Rocker
- "Shut his girly piehole"............................Macomb Rocker
- "Kwame Stathakis & band of lackeys" ...Macomb Rocker
- "Hope with all my heart he wins suit"......Judy Martin
- "You can't change stupid" .................... Judy Martin
- "You use nazi images to promote hate". Bingo
- "He got dicked over" ............................. Bingo
- "Halfway house for recovering pedophiles" ..Bingo
- "Former male model has no ethics" ....... W.F.729
- "I hope he sues pants off Township" .... Dana Horton
- 'Neighbors all love the nightingales'.. Shelbynurse <OMG-You get paid for that?>
I suspect these comments are coming from only a couple of people using different names trying to influence Community opinion on this pending case. There simply aren't that many folks in this country who would anxiously support and promote paying for someone else's lawsuit against themself ...with the plaintiff also in a position to influence the vote (which is case here if you are a Shelby taxpayer and support this lawsuit).
Shelbynurse
2:15 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Sarah, you are obviously one in the same of the persons posting here. Your vernacular is consistent throughout all the posts. This is exactly why I will not have anything to do with the community nor this thread any longer. I speak the truth. I am also far too educated and caring of people to partake in any further of these antics. It’s always one that spoils it for everyone else. Good luck with endeavors Sarah/Matt/Mike. I TRULY wish you well and hope you get the answers/satisfaction in whatever you are looking for to accomplish. Sarah it's quite obvious you have never worked in corporate america or know of any Attorneys if you really believe in the things you say.
Shelbynurse
2:51 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
"I suspect these comments are coming from only a couple of people using different names"
Right there you gave yourself away Sarah Franklin.
Shelbynurse
2:19 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
P.S. Sarah, I'd be MORE than happy to meet you in person and discuss this so you can see I am for real and not of which you are accusing me of. Please private message I and I'll meet up with you anytime. I will NOT give my full name on this forum because of the questionable metal stability some have displayed here. Please do take me up on this offer and you will see I am very real, I am speaking the truth and I have no problem letting you know it. :) Maybe you can enlighten ME on some things I am not privy to.
Sarah Franklin
6:24 pm on Saturday, March 2, 2013
Shelbynurse.... Thanks for civil response contrary to others. Your heart is in right spot but your facts are sketchy beginning with first 'fact' last Tuesday. You indicated discussing lawsuit was no different than violating HIPPA in a medical setting.. That is incorrect; HIPPA governs disclosure of patient medical records preventing those in the medical/insurance field from discussing any information about a patient without 'specific and written authorization' by the patient or advocate defining what can be said and to who. The law that drives HIPPA has NO RELEVANCE to openly discussing lawsuits that are of public record in a public forum. Flynn, you or I can talk about this subject until our eyes fall out without repercussion, providing such discussion does not blatantly misrepresent facts or include slanderous commentary that causes 'specific and measurable harm' to any parties. In other words, commenting on the facts as they exist without malice is fully within our constitutional rights. And in my 'opinion', that is exactly what Flynn did in his rant last week. The 'cut to the chase' on this whole blog is that good ethics don't necessarily equate to what one can get away with legally. Nightingale can 'legally' sue and serve the same folks and he is doing it. Ethically, I believe 9+ out of 10 people would argue this is not the right thing to do. This is the message. :-)
Strip the veil of liking the guy or not from the message and he did not compromise Shelby interests.
Macomb Rocker
11:02 pm on Sunday, March 3, 2013
Yep Fat Matt, I'm no little boy. I can take care of myself got it? Hey you're the one that was getting your azz beat by the old farts. I figured out why you study so hard on Shelby politics. You have no job except to troll on the computer in your parents basement. Right? Bingo's blog has some righteous commenrs about you. Amen Bingo.The dude lives next to the elementary school too. I notice the fence that bordered the school that Matt hung his
derogatory signs up on is gone. The school must have gotten tired of the kids witnessing the low class signs.
Matt Guarnieri
2:55 am on Monday, March 4, 2013
Why would, where a person lives, or what he does for money, matter on comments. I comment on people afraid to use their real names..... think about it, you may not like me but I am honest enough to put my name out there...... those that use alias's, lie and personally attack others as chickens.
I believe in something and I publicized it and removed a corrupt public trustee from office. I will do the same to Nightingale, The towing report showed his company over billed customers, employed dangerous pedophiles to contact women and children, never locked in their prices (just pulled numbers out of thin air) and refused to improve the appearance of their business as promised.
This is still the situation with Nick Nightingales business, nothing has changed and if this is how he runs his business this is how he would run the township.
jim heard
3:07 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Hey Matt i think Macomb Rocker doesn't use his real name because Jeffy Berz got banned from the site for posting derogatory pics of STPD.
Dana Horton
2:31 pm on Tuesday, March 5, 2013
Pedophile? Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?