Do we blame the citizens for bringing forth lawsuits, OR do we blame the politicians for creating the lawsuits?

Statahikis: "the filings are nothing more than political tactics"... "like the time I sued the Township to prevent my recall."

Statahikis' "beliefs", and there corresponding lawsuits, are going to bankrupt the township. But I guess we shouldn't expect anything less from a politician who lies to everyone's faces ("I have not decided if I am going to run for reelection" which is B.S. for "I'm waiting the printing shop to finish my jumbo campaign signs").

Right on, Sharon

The political dump that has become this Township is disappointing.

How the Nightingale's and Leman handle rejection kind of gives you a sense of how they would run the township. If it's not good for them or about them, forget the voters or taxpayers, it's their wants and needs first. They want to cost taxpayers more money whether they are elected or not. I don't believe Nightingale's or Leman have taxpayers in mind with their actions and won't be thinking about taxpayers if elected.

So two people who have lost contracts with the Twp now decide to run for office. If either of those two win, I truly hope that neither decide to vote and push for new contracts for their businesses. Major conflict of interest and if of those two attempt to do so they may just find themselves face a recall based on their ethics while in office.

Matt is mixing up ethic and ethnic again.

THIS IS NOT A PAID MESSAGE FOR NICK NIGHTINGALE

The names Stathakis and Viar keep coming up as well.
Perhaps these names are the common denominator or the nucleus of the problem when it comes to poor ethics and law suits.
Is Stathakis always right and everyone else always wrong? Think about it. The guy continually does stupid things then township attorney Rob Huth comes along to pick up the pieces again.

I'd love to know how much you are spending on your campaign signs! Talk about a frivolous waste of money!! (. . . but I guess if it's your money, who cares.)

The most unethical of all the current board members is Lisa Manzella. The others are trying to clean up the unethical vendor and ex police chief.

Blah blah blah he did this blah blah blah she did that blah blah - same old words in the same old order. Every moment's a little bit later...

The politics in Shelby Twp is a discrace to say the least and you have to go to the top to identify the problem. As usual Matt starts at the bottom to look for problems. The Stathakis and Viar show needs to end. I still cant believe they let Kowal get away with there antics. This is all about money and politics folks wake up and smell the candidates. PHEW

yes yes- the politics in Shelby are a major disgrace! And if you believe it or not the current supervisor is an acting dictator.

The comments on here by Matt are cynical and sound like they come from a crazy person.
If you knew any of these people that Matt tries to make look so bad you would truly disagree. The candidiates who are running against some of the current board members are people who live and do business in Shelby. They want what is best for Shelby Township.
The majority of the current board is operating as a group behind the scenes. This is not how a township board should operate. It is a group of different and diverse ideas that makes a successful board. Stathakis and his cronies know exactly what and how they will vote on important issues long before the night of any township meeting. This is wrong! This is not the voice of the people. It’s truly time for change!

Mr. Berz has a personal relationship with many of the candidates. I have none. I strickly watch public meeting, read every scrap of news on every candidate and am truely the average taxpayer of Shelby Township. This board saves taxpayers millions of dollars. The opposition Mr. Berz supports (doesn't even pay a penny of taxes in Shelby Twp.) Are the leaders of the very corruption that ran this township for years. Ask yourself: Do you want the days of deficit spending and no bid contracts given to "friends" or do you want fairness and an honest bidding process to continue. It's simple, when the corrupt ran the township we had deficit spending and the "buddy" system for awarding contracts with no oversight. Now we have consultants giving expert input, fair bidding of contracts and people will not stand by while a trustee uses her position as trustee to fill her pockets while harming taxpayers. They mistakingly think by attacking me I will go away but this should be proof they are all corrupt. Please contact the editor and ask her to allow my blogs on the real story of Shelby politics, although she has been manipulated (charmed) into blindness also..... just scan my QR on my profile.

If anyone believes any of Matts last blurb then I have a really nice bridge to sell you.
What is a person has friends and buddies? A real person should. What bothers me are dirty political deals done in private.
The name Stathakis is synonymous to cronyism!

Just to let people know: I am working on the "NightingaleTowing.com" site and the "BobleMan.org" sites also...... in my spare time... and once up, since both are now public figures I will also archive them forever in the search engines. I think if you google "Lisa Manzella" my site is the first one up, They will all be number 1 when I'm finished..... Don't know if I'll be around too much longer but the internet will go on forever.

I agree with John Lang regarding the show that precluded the last township board meeting. It was RIDICULOUS and blasphemous!
If you Love God good for you! If you attend church that's great! If you're a proud American GREAT! But to have to make a video about how Godly or American you are is really cheesy. It reminds me of the movie Wag the Dog. A story about phony politics.
What matters to me is if the candidate is a good person. If you have to put on a dog &pony show like that to make people think you're something then that sends a clear and sad message.
I wonder what the pregame show will be next week?

It's like a broken record...

I think that the statement "SUE SHELBY" that Rick Stathakis makes in the title of this story is very obtuse and cocky seeing as how he himself is the nucleus of all of the law suits going on in Shelby Township. It's about as "transparent" as it can get.
If the supervisor did to me what he did to the Nightingales you better believe that I would sue him too!

Regarding Brian Pawliks comment about stealing peoples names I agree.
If it can’t be done honestly then just make up a new name and keep the comments coming. Grow up and use your own name.
Bill Webber of Shelby Township is an older gentleman. He said he doesn’t even own a computer so who’s using Bill Webber’s name to blog here? If you can’t be yourself then you’re lying to everyone.

Mr. Berz..... I do not comment under others name, never - ever. There is no fun in doing so. You have to register an email with Marina to comment, if she cannot reach the person back by email then she should delete their account. If you think this is what's happening you should do this. "Shelby Citizen" is me but it has been duplicated at least 6 times since I have used it. Many people want to comment and say they are me but like I say. The people reading my comments are usually the subjects and they are also the one copying me which shows I have gotten under their thin skin and it's a win for me. I have no reputation to protect, I have nothing to lose. I state my opinions and I state why I have them. I don't do the personal attack thing unless someone else does.
Mr. Berz, there are quite a few skeletons in your own closet. Just you don't have credibility to destroy because you admit to supporting corruption and unethical businesses. You stand for unethical behavior. Your motto is "mess with me or my friends, no matter how wrong they may be and you mess with me".
I live by: "How is this helping the majority for the long haul".
Getting rid of corrupt trustees and unethical towing contractors within Shelby is a good thing to me, even if they were my own family; I would turn on them if this is how they behaved. I do not stand by self-indulgent politician, or self-entitled, spoiled babies that run businesses.

If you had a towing company then I could be the Queen of England!
Change the script once in a while. It’s always the same thing . You continually group Bob Leman, Lisa Manzella and the Nightingales into your rants.

The judge or the jury will make the final decision in this court case. Unfortunately for you Matt you won’t have any say in the matter.

And insulted as well I’m guessing! Are you defending the DEFENDANTS? It must be awful to be a DEFENDANT. It usually doesn’t turn out well when you’re the DEFENDANT.
I’m sure a big bag of wind probably does have more to say than I may think. Surprise me!

Matts absolutely right!
My utmost apologies to the Dali Lama. The comment was made in a facetious manner meant to point out that the Dali Lama is on the highest end of the spectrum and that Matt is.....well.... not.
I am sorry for any misconception that anyone may have taken out of my comment. If I could have drawn it on paper with crayons for you I would have.
In no way is there any type of positive association with either party.
Thanks for coming down!

SIR! YOU ARE OUT OF ORDER!!!!.........Chief Woelkers.....CHIEF WOELKERS!! Escort Mister Churchill(the blind man out). He's saying bad things about me so we'll just hush him up!
OK then next we'll get to you in front here then you in the back then ....you on the right then back over to the chunky guy in the back with the signs and the Hawaiian shirt. Haw haw haw, don't worry we haven't forgotten about you Mister Turner haw haw we like to save the best for last but hey before you get started I just wanna say that this board is being about as transparent(as a lead wall) as we can. Ok sir go ahead you have 4 1/2 minutes left.

I was just taking a walk down Memory Lane when I remembered the story about a Shelby Township Supervisor named Rick Stathakis who put the township towing contract out for bid. Low and behold Ricks friend Dino from Utica-VanDyke Towing down in Sterling Heights “won” the contract.
In very short order news came out that the folks at Utica-VanDyke Towing didn’t have the proper equipment to fulfill the contract. I was shocked as were many others! Knowing Supervisor Stathakis I would have assumed that he would have done his due diligence and read that contract from front to back in an effort to be totally fair and “transparent”. Well darn it if Rick didn’t miss a paragraph or two where the contract talked about the size of a truck or something like that. Once again knowing Ricks moral and ethics I’m guessing this was just a mere oversight. It could be that someone spilled coffee or KoolAid on that page. In any case I’m sure it wasn’t his fault.
Now Township Attorney Rob Huth comes to the rescue. I guess the copy of the contract that Rob had did say something about the size of the truck needed to fulfill the contract. Rob now more or less smoothed the whole situation over and tried to make it look like Rick didn’t step in it too badly and then the situation mysteriously and happily went away and the contract was returned to the rightful party.

Wow!! Mr Berz has benn drinking the Nightingale Halucinagenic kool-aid.
1. The Nightingales were being investigated because it wa found they were handling abandoned vehicles in violation of State law, the over charges were only uncovered during this investigation.
2. Nightingales signed a contract stating they would publish cost on a sign on their lobby wall. (Never done- clear violation of contract).
3. At the meeting awarding Nightingale's the towing, Mrs. Filar as John Nightingale if he would improve the outward apperance of the yard. Mr. Nightingale said "yes, within 12 months" Mrs. Filar said she would give him 18 months and PUT IT IN THE CONTRACT. This alone shows how Mr. Nightingale is not a man of his word. He signs a contract but never intended to follow it.
4. The questionable employee (I believe) is on the sexual predator list FOR LIFE and was doing tows and work on vehicles where he came into contact with women and children.
I just ran all the names of every blogger on the Patch and none of them have a child porn charge, so if what you say is the truth Mr. Berz, you are clear but since it can not be verified and you said it as fact, I would call that Libel.
Last, when did Utica Van Dyke ever tow for Shelby Twp.? And 8 thought there were 7 members who voted on kicking Nightingales to the curb.

Sorry Matt, your credibility was completely destroyed when you denied that Shelby Citizen wasn't you, when you denied that your blog wasn't yours, and when you hijacked names that are not your namesake for your blog. It's as simple as that. It's clear now where you get your information from, straight from Rick himself. That in itself is the reason you lose every argument and will continue to.

Maybe the this story tells will help you find an answer to your question as to why few care about the report.
http://www.sourcenewspapers.com/articles/2012/02/09/news/doc4f33d5426b139595134248.txt

In my opinion small business owners get a break in my book, especially when they are in my community. We are supposed to be supporting each other out here, not worrying about how we are going to tear each other down. While the issues in the document are real, they are nothing that could not have been simple misunderstandings and dealt with to bring each party into compliance and/or make the managing processes better. Both sides had been called out for problems, which is normal in any audit with a contract that deals with state regulations. I don’t fault the Township any more than I fault the small business owner. What I do see a problem with is the reaction and misguided handling of the problem. The source story spells it out clearly, the board went is another company that was not in Shelby and more expensive. Why? Politics. (again, my opinion.)

Mr. Pawlik, I never lied about who I am.After Mr. Manzella phoned me and threatened my family I did on occasion still post as "Shelby Citizen" . I realized it may seem cowardly to hide so I am putting myself out there for all to see I never use false names, all others are whoever they wish to be but not me. You're saying every post disagreeing with the Nightingale's or Mr. Berz point of view is by me, this is simply not true, they play games, I do not.

The Nightingale's are crooks, and their reaction at business meetings to being caught says it all. Their reaction now by suing the very people you claim they are a part of tells a lot about their character.
"Rick's crew" as you call it has save citizens from a predatory towing contractor, plain and simple. A thief within our own ranks is worse than any honest man from outside our community. Think about it Mr. Pawlik.
I feel sorry for those that fall under their spell of charm, for they are the damaged citizens not able to see the deceit the "Nightingale Crew" is bestowing on them.
If you want to know who the "Nightingale Crew" of deceit is just look at the names on signs at thie station at 23 and Van Dyke, it's always looked like a domp but more so now a days. I tell people, "if you want to pay more in taxes and support a crooked business and crooked people, vote for any of the names you see on signs at the North West corner of Van Dyke and 23" It's that simple.... and people are listening.

Sorry, "South West" corner of 23 and Van Dyke. This is where you will find deceit.

Matt - your viewpoint is yours, I just feel it's extreme. Both parties made mistakes in the contract, and I’m sure this happens in other communities, as there are always problems to tackle. I’m sure we are not done hearing about process problems in the Township, or other contract issues we don’t know about yet. I also doubt much of what you've said mostly because I think you breached your integrity (again, my viewpoint and that’s not going to change anytime soon). I'm tired of any opposing opinion being scuttled into one group or the other, just because they don’t agree with your point of view (and vice versa). We are not sheep here, we all of intelligence and each of us are due some level of respect to express own opinion. I do not care for the type of divisive politics that is occurring in Shelby where the only way to win is to destroy your opposition, which is how the current board is running (see article above). Every single one of the people that are running have mothers, fathers, sons, and daughters, and I find lots of the comments going around embarrassing to the Township (See above, then see article above) and would feel bad if I was one of their loved ones reading this mess. It’s a smear campaign, and the smeared now want a chance for redemption – you don’t want that – I get it. This is an exact replay of 2008, except now it’s smear Bob instead of Skip.

It’s also the same plays that Rick has been running since he took over, it’s my opinion that the only way Rick knows how to get what he wants is to smear them publicly until they give up. Rick’s problem is that some just don’t give up and some can see what the tactics are. This doesn’t absolve one side or the other from all problems. Just because you think you see the facts one way, doesn’t prevent anyone else from having a different paradigm looking at the same facts. You’re welcome to your opinion, but the bullying that appears in this thread is a bit discouraging and that is a general statement. I hope you have a good weekend.

What I see is something different than you see. What I have formed is of my own opinion and not what other haves so desperately tried to convince me of. This discussion reminds me of a quote from a famous physician, “We are all doing the best we can from our own level of consciousness." Again, have a good weekend.