In Troy, Rick Santorum Calls Obama a 'Snob'; Mitt Romney Plays to Home Crowd
A large enthusiastic group cheers the GOP presidential candidates and conservative ideals Saturday at Troy's San Marino Club.
More than 1,000 people crowded into the San Marino Club in Troy on Saturday to attend the Michigan Prosperity Forum, a rally hosted by Americans for Prosperity – Michigan just three days before the presidential primary.
The conservative organization – which has roughly 67,000 members in Michigan, according to Americans for Prosperity president Tim Phillips – brought in several notable speakers, including conservative journalist Michelle Malkin, commentator and online publisher Andrew Breitbart, WJR radio show host Frank Beckmann and former GOP presidential candidate Herman Cain in addition to presidential hopefuls Rick Santorum and Mitt Romney.
Saline resident Cindy Vlisides attended the event with her husband "to support my conservative ideas."
"It's very exciting to see some of the younger people out here," Dryden resident Ethan Nowak said. "My parents influenced me to come here today. ... I'm learning a lot."
Santorum touts his conservatism, calls Obama a 'snob'
Santorum was the first Republican presidential candidate to stop in, arriving to a standing ovation less than an hour into the rally. An energized crowd whooped, hollered and cheered Santorum as he spoke about cutting government spending, restoring conservative values, reducing government control and creating jobs.
"We have a government and a leader who believes that he knows best," Santorum said, "and the biggest example of that is Obamacare. I would not be in this race if it wasn't for Obamacare. ... It is robbing us of our essential freedoms."
Though he said he did not support the Wall Street or auto industry bailouts, Santorum said he does understand what it's like to come from a manufacturing background and the importance of those jobs.
"Not all folks are gifted in the same way. Some people have incredible gifts ... and want to work out there making things," Santorum said. "Obama said he wants everybody in America to go to college. What a snob."
Santorum also blasted global warming, taking a jab at opponent Romney in the process.
"I don't go out and crow that I opposed the first carbon cap on power plants as Gov. Romney did ... and talk about how we're responding to the severe threat of manmade global warming," Santorum said. "I didn't buy it. I didn't buy climate science."
Touting himself as the most conservative candidate, Santorum encouraged audience members to vote for him Tuesday. "Every time we've run a moderate, we've lost," he said. "Every time we've run a conservative ... we've won."
Romney emphasizes Michigan roots, vows cuts
Three hours after Santorum spoke, Romney and his wife, Ann, arrived, also receiving a standing ovation from the excited crowd.
"It's good to be back in the place we called home for the first 19 years of my life," Romney said once the applause died down.
Ann Romney emphasized their Michigan roots, saying, "If you cut us open and we bleed, we bleed Vernors."
Ann, whose father owned a business in Troy, shared her story with the audience. "When my father was 15, they emigrated right to here. To here," she said, pointing emphatically to the floor. "This is where we got our start."
Like Santorum, Romney also emphasized cutting government spending, reducing debt and restoring conservative values.
"I will cut spending, I will cap spending and I will finally balance the budget," he said, drawing applause. Like Santorum, he said he would also cut President Obama's health care plan as well as funding to organizations like PBS, the National Endowment for the Arts and the National Endowment for the Humanities.
"They're wonderful, but I'm not willing to borrow money from China to pay for them," he said, receiving more applause. "This is not a time for business as usual in Washington. It's a time for principled conservative leadership."
Attendees call rally a success
Many of those present at the rally said they attended just to be around other conservatives. Others, including Oakland Township resident Mary Jo Grohs, said they attended because they wanted to learn more about the candidates and hear them speak.
"I felt we had to do something," said Grohs, who was there with her husband. "We're tired of Obama and felt we had to learn what was going on and do something."
Troy resident and Romney fan Kevin Stubbings said he found out about the rally when his son called him to say he had just seen Romney's tour bus driving around Troy.
"I've been a long-term resident, and I've been a long-term Republican," Stubbings said. "I just appreciate them coming out to Troy and visiting with us today."
Theresa Farah of Davison said she and her daughter, Kari Farah, enjoyed the rally. "I think it's great," she said.
"I think the crowd is great," Kari Farah said. "There's a lot more people than I thought there would be, but they've energized the debate, so that's what we were hoping for."
"I'm still torn, I don't know which way I'm going to go," Lapeer resident Bill Gavette said. "For me, I thought this was great."
Other local politicians also attended the rally included Donald Volaric, who is running for the 9th Congressional District seat, and Rep. Marty Knollenberg. Troy Mayor Janice Daniels did not appear to attend the event.
"I'm here to support this conservative movement," Volaric said. "We've got to stop this before it becomes part of our history."
"I think as we look at someone to be our president, we have somebody here that's a leader," said Knollenberg, a Romney supporter.
He added that Troy plays a crucial part in a potential candidate's victory in Oakland County. "If Republicans want to win in Michigan, they've got to win Oakland County," Knollenberg said. "Troy being the largest city, it's going to be a key part of all of this."
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Kristina Bowles
7:53 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Obama wants to better the future of America by encouraging them all to go to college??? How dare he!!! What a snob! I can't stop laughing.
Yvonne
10:29 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Well, we can't have an educated or critically thinking populace. That education stuff is reserved for the elite. Besides, who would vote for Mr. Sweater Vest otherwise, duh. Hahahaaaaa!
Donna Quin
11:39 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Wanting to education the people of America is snobby? It's not like you have to go to Ivy League to get a good education - nothing wrong with wanting people to be more educated and I am not sure why you can't stop laughing!!! lol!!!
ExTroyGal
12:05 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
@Kristina: I couldn't agree more with your comment.
President Obama is a proponent of higher education (whether it be college, trade schools, technical school) being available and affordable to all who want it. He knows that it's the only way for America to be a strong nation and compete globally.
Rick Santorum's ridiculous comment must mean that he thinks America's success will be based on mediocrity. Uh, yeah, good luck with that! I cannot understand why anyone would want Santorum to be president.
dk
4:57 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
Just because Santorum has an MBA and a JD doesn't mean everyone should. Here's what Santorum, RMoney, Snyder, McMillin and the rest of the extremists that have hijacked the Republican Party have in store for Michigan Schools and our Rochester kids.
Scientology and Nation of Islam take over Florida charter school: "Every teacher was given Learning How to Learn, an illustrated children's book and starter's guide to study tech that includes a biography of Hubbard. Teachers also were trained in Smart Way, a phonics program designed by Scientologists.
http://www.tampabay.com/news/education/controversy-over-scientology-influence-clouds-future-of-pinellas-charter/1217239
Ed Lambert
8:10 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
Kristina, would you have social pressure or "free" tuition coax everyone to go to college?
At least one prominent politician with college degrees credited himself publicly with having invented the Internet.
Another one built a political campaign on things no more substantive than "hope and change."
And there are some very influential and successful people on the American scene who have hardly spent a day on a college campus.
How about encouraging all Americans to fully exercize their human potential? That is problematical, however. It might encourage people to do other than what the State specifically wants them to do. Those who would use--and are using--the Constitution to fashion a different country are wary of "human potential" unless they have a control on it.
Sharon MacDonell
8:46 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Obama is robbing us of our freedoms with "Obamacare" Santorum says? Like what, the freedom to have chronic illness and no medical care? The freedom to let small businesses go bankrupt under the weight of obscenely high insurance bills? The freedom to suffer? The freedom to make our college-aged kids go without health insurance?
Give me a break!
Cathy Fucinari
9:17 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
You missed a major point Sharon: The freedom for women (and our daughters) to have no control over their own bodies.
Nancy
8:53 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
So gay bashing Tom McMillin supports Rick Santorum? Where do these nuts come from?
Alan Stamm
9:43 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Stay classy, Herman Cain. Here's what he said at the Tea Party event, as reported by Michigan Information & News Service (a Lansing newsletter):
"We outnumber the stupid people. Contrary to what they say, we can beat Barack Obama." The newsletter adds: "That was met with big cheers and applause."
Really? That's how you talk about us when we're not present?
Scot Beaton
11:10 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Alan, "the stupid people", and this comes from the same group that believes in "Cultural Conservatism", as I understand it... has to do with a narrow view of the American heritage and the American identity. Cultural conservatives reject "mutlticulturalism." They would like prayer in public schools. They don't like the idea of separation of church and state; they think its wrong and contrary to the tradition given to us by the "Founding Fathers." They would like creationism at least equally represented alongside evolution in public schools. They can choose to believe the world was created in six days, and believe man and Tyrannosaurs Rex were on the plant at the same time. That's whats great about America. "freedom of speech" but not in public school science class. Both Charles Darwin and Thomas Jeffersons are getting thrown under the bus lately... They would like flag burning to be a crime. They are in favor making English the official national language, and sex is only for making babes... boring.* And so on and so forth.
Then this begs the question why do "some" in the Republican party want to shut out so many "sane" Americans out of their party? It's to bad Abraham Lincoln isn't around, I wonder what his opinion would be?
note: technology will solve the worlds language barriers... besides I personally don't under stand all the paranoia, English is the international language of money.
*remember the Bob Dole, Viagra commercials guess it takes 4 hours to make a baby.
dk
5:22 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
The stupid people as opposed to the "dangerously stupid people"?
Yvonne
10:46 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
"Santorum said he does understand what it's like to come from a manufacturing background."
Except his dad was a psychologist and his mom was a nurse. He has been a lawyer and politician - where, oh where, is this manufacturing background that he understands so well? Sounds to me like he comes from a lot of privilege, and still he thinks being educated makes one a snob. Ummmmm, what?
lovetheusa1234
9:45 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
I agree. This man is such a hypocrite, I seriously can't even take it anymore. I have now turned on all of the elite RIGHT wing media now, constantly promoting the good points of Santorum (I personally don't see any) and tearing Mitt Romney to shreds. It's sad, I used to get a kick out of listening to Rush Limbaugh, even agreeing with him at times, but now I can't listen to any of them: Limbaugh (both of them, Beck, Hannity, Ingraham, William Krystal, etc. Now I understand why the women are all going democrat. I'm holding out for a Mitt Romney win, but there are so many forces against him, right wing and left wing elite media, that if he loses, I will have to cast my vote for Obama because I can't take Santorum telling me how to live my personal life. Romney is the candidate who will be a wonderful president. Let's hope that the wonderful voters of Michigan will hand Mitt a decisive win tomorrow!
Jesse Williams
11:01 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Wanting our citizens to go to college is snobby? This from the man with a J.D.? Yeah, right... I'm buying that Santorum.
Oh, what Romney? You don't want to borrow from China to pay for PBS or the Endowment? How about making the wealthy people in our country pay their fair share of taxes. I bet THAT could pay for the both of them. As well as some scholarships to send more kids to college. And probably healthcare reforms. Hell, it might even, you know... fix the broken middle class and raise the lower class out of the slump. That would be crazy though, right?
I'm back to voting my conscience. If there's a true Libertarian candidate on the 2012 ballot, they'll get my vote regardless of their "chance of winning." This bipartisan garbage has to end.
Cathy Fucinari
9:21 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
I would be willing to bet that Santorum applied to Harvard, but didn't get in.
Ed Lambert
8:15 pm on Wednesday, February 29, 2012
I would bet that Obama didn't even have to complete a full application to get into Harvard. "Affirmative Action," ya know.
Be mindful, also, that we have yet to see anything published about Obama's academic record or even anything he has written pertaining to his career in law. A "professor of Constitutional law" without any written record?
Ms Fucinari, what have you to say about this?
Cathy Fucinari
8:41 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
Mr. Lambert, If you took the time to research and read, you would have no problem finding academic records for Mr. Obama. You don't understand what the Harvard application process entails or what the standards are for admission. It is not simply academic. My suspicion is that you simply parrot what others have told you and think that is truth. By the way, leave your hate and racism at the door. We're not interested.
Jan Green
11:29 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
A short note for the liberal posters here: if Obama confiscated every penny from every millionaire/billionaire in the US and handed it over to the Federal Government we couldn't pay off even a tenth of the debt he has accumulated, let alone pay for such niceties as the 'National Endowment of the Arts' so your arguments are baseless, ignorant and irrelevant. I feel truely sorry for anyone who feels compelled to shill for four more disastrous years of daily assaults on the Constitution and the freedom and liberties we are privileged to enjoy in this country. Fair warning though. We are out there and we are not going away.
Jesse Williams
11:44 pm on Saturday, February 25, 2012
Jan, first let me note that I am not a liberal. I did vote for Obama, and I will almost certainly not be voting for him again. However, the baseless and ignorant comments go both ways. What debt, precisely, has Obama accumulated since he was voted into office? You realize, of course, that the vast majority of debt that the country takes on come from projects and budgets that are controlled by persons who are NOT the president, right? This includes democrats, republicans, and independents in the house, senate, and other governmental agencies. Blaming the man in the oval office for the entirety of any debt (and this extends to W. as well) shows ignorance of how our system of government operates (and fails to operate, as the case may be). You realize, I assume, that there are committees, sub-committees, oversight committees that deal with budgets and approve or disapprove spending?
Lastly, take into consideration how American citizens are failing - everywhere from civic-mindedness to expectations of entitlement. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-07-11/news/30013193_1_budget-deficit-government-spending-tax-collections is an interesting (and, I believe, objective look at this issue). Since you castigate "liberal posters," it can only be assumed that you are "conservative." The conservative movement, at least within the confines of the republican party has no great desire to employ liberties in this country either. A wealth shift is not an economy booster.
Yvonne
12:02 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Jan, Obama inherited a war & the greatest economic crisis since the Great Depression - none of which were his fault.
I am very curious to know exactly what assaults occurred against the Constitution because of Obama's actions - can you please provide examples?
Indeed, from what I remember of the past decade (or more) in politics, we lost much more freedom and liberty when gwb was in office. The Patriot Act was not only an affront to our freedom and liberty, it was a win for the terrorists. Any time we give up our constitutional rights because politicians create fear in our hearts, we lose. Our constitutional rights are not contingent on our state of war or peace. And please, make no mistake, Santorum is nothing if not a fear monger, and this is not just coming from me - plenty of Conservative pundits and policymakers have noted this, including Karl Rove.
Cathy Fucinari
9:24 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
However, if all the pennies that were spent on wars in the 90's and 2000's, were laid end to end, what would happen to the national debt? Anyone remember the "WMD"s?
Jo Nielson
1:36 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
So, it was okay for President Clinton to bomb Iraq in 1998. Even Dems voted for Afghanistan and Iraq, so it's hard to claim a high moral ground there either. I find it odd that the anti-war movement has significantly died down since President Obama took office. And, nobody seems to have problems w/ the fact that we supported going into Libya (and too many people enjoyed seeing the pictures of his dead body on television) and Uganda.
The message a lot of us have gotten is that Dems are only anti-war when the President is a Republican.
Obviously, a lot of people don't want to acknowledge the NDAA was signed into law by President Obama. Designating the US a military zone and allowing the military to capture and jail US citizens without cause or due process isn't what I'd call freedom. That piece of legislation was passed around Christmas time 2010. The vote on it wasn't even close. It passed with large majorities in the House and Senate. And, it needs to be noted that one of the main sponsors in the Senate was our very own Sen. Carl Levin (who, ironically, also issued statements stating a belief that there were WMDs in Iraq). This idea that Dems hold any high moral ground when it comes to war and civil liberties is suspect, at best, and hypocritical, at worst.
Yvonne
2:34 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Jo, Who's claiming a high moral ground? I certainly didn't. Nor did I ever say that the bombings in 1998 were ok. All I did was point out that, in terms of the economy, Obama inherited from gwb the war in Iraq and the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression.
I never made any pro or anti-war statements either. It seems that trying to turn this conversation into one about the "hypocrisy of the anti-war Dems" is a bald attempt to deflect from the fact that Obama keeps getting blamed for the economic situation that he inherited from gwb.
I agree that the most recent version of the NDAA, which codified the indefinite detention of terror suspects without due process among other things, is terrible. It is an affront to our freedom. I don't deny that, nor does any single human rights activist that I know. We fought against it, and sadly we lost. We will continue to fight against it, and hopefully one day it will be overturned. So I fail to see any hypocrisy here.
Still, I can just picture how Obama would have been portrayed, this election year, had he not signed it - "weak on terror," and a "terrorist sympathizer." It was a typical narrative in 2008, so why should this year be any different? Even after he got Osama, the right couldn't even give him credit. That, however, does reek of hypocrisy.
Will Curtis
5:06 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
That Business Insider link provided by Jesse Williams is a "must read". A lot of people on the left and right want to cast blame. And a lot of those same people, left and yes, those on the right, are always happy getting their free lunch from the government. And those same people, a lot of them, are posting here. Granted, the Business Insider author, Henry Blodget, has some "insider trading" issues of his own, no doubt he knows the game pretty well.
dk
5:25 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
A short note to conservative posters here. Please don't repeat right wing talking points. If you have any evidence to support your claims, link them. Otherwise, you might want to try getting information from some place that isn't Fox News or Rush Limbaugh.
Brian Clark
2:17 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
I'm voting for Romney because he's lived in Michigan before, so...that...means he would be a good president! Romney is EXTREMELY, SEVERELY from Michigan!
"Right here. Right on this very spot! RIGHT WHERE YOU'RE STANDING!!! That guy right there! The one in the third row next to the guy in the dark suit with the beige tie who’s looking at his watch again and asking if this is just about done!
"My dad stood in that exact spot once. He stood there during difficult times and during good times. I've stood in that spot too!...In fact, I'm going to leave the podium and stand there right now just to prove it! I've stood there, or I’m going to, and I’ve walked through that doorway! I touched that door right there! Well, my staffers touched the door, but I walked through it, and, by golly, I'll walk through it, or one of the other doors, because that’s what it means to be a Michiganian!…And I peed in the bathroom just down the street. If you don't believe me, I have photos! They're of a different bathroom in another state, but it's the same type of setup, with similar fixtures. I've gone to the bathroom dozens of times in Michigan. Just like all of you! And that’s why I’m going to repeal Obamacare!...OBAMACARE! OBAMACARE! OBAMACARE!"
When are we going to stop being won over by such blatant pandering and inane sound bites? Oh, Obama ate a cheeseburger?!? I'VE eaten a cheeseburger! He understands my needs!
lovetheusa1234
8:43 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
Santorum's stature dramatically declined in the last debate, making him look very much like a jr. senator, not a president. Romney stayed on message and yet again, proved to be an excellent debater. Let's nominate Mitt Romney and watch a good old fashioned presidential campaign this fall between the Harvard guys
Cathy Fucinari
9:27 am on Sunday, February 26, 2012
We have a long road to the election. The candidates who have campaigned and debated so far have proven to me that, given enough time, they WILL shoot themselves in the foot. It's like watching a cartoon.
Cathy Fucinari
7:07 pm on Sunday, February 26, 2012
@ Will Curtis. Although I am definitely left of many of the people who post on Troy Patch, I want to go on the record to establish that I have NEVER taken a DIME, much less a free lunch, from the government. I never even took government backed loans, for buying a house or paying tuition. I worked two jobs when necessary. Watch where you point fingers.
Will Curtis
12:38 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Cathy F- You've convinced me. Not pointing at you.
Will Curtis
12:51 am on Monday, February 27, 2012
Others though - say those still holding jobs with two of the Big 3, others in the public sector or vendors to the public sector including those working in the military-industrial complex, corrections, road construction, etc - well I could go on, they might have a finger directed their way. Not that I necessarily have any problem with any of those sectors, but there are many teetering into hypocrisy when they make some of the more "extreme" statements I've read on many of the posts connected to politics and the economy. Stop and think a second. Might you be one of those?
Cathy Fucinari
8:45 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
So you are suggesting that anyone that doesn't weak a white collar has their hand out? That's how it sounds. BTW, my dad was blue collar, and he never took a dime from anyone either.
Will Curtis
10:38 am on Thursday, March 1, 2012
No. Not necessarily. Think guys who design transmissions at GM, beancounters at Halliburton and Chrysler, personnel managers at local community colleges, fellas who were in the US Senate that moved on to K Street. They know who they are.
Cathy Fucinari
12:38 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
Bigotry. Not enough knowledge to be ashamed.
Will Curtis
1:19 pm on Thursday, March 1, 2012
My tax dollars support these people directly or indirectly whether they want believe it or not. I'm generally fine with that. The hypocrisy they harbor. No.
Will Curtis
6:03 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Here's not leaving well enough alone. Check this out: http://www.alternet.org/visions/154338/Ayn_Rand_Worshippers_Should_Face_Facts:_Blue_States_Are_the_Providers,_Red_States_Are_the_Parasites/?page=entire
Lianne Mathie
6:49 pm on Saturday, March 3, 2012
Here's a moment of hilarity.
http://motherjones.com/media/2012/03/mark-fiore-cartoon-2012-election-gop-primary-race
Scot Beaton
5:14 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
oakland, I concur why can't the Republican party not understand the what makes a great public school system? This was a comment I got from Mr. Lambert, on the Tom McMillin post...
"Conservatives do not ask that prayer be mandated in schools; they simply want the government to stay out of the decision-making of local schools and/or its students regarding what is done in those schools." his quote...
my response...
If this statement is true... then let's say the demographic of the Dearborn public school district has changed and the majority of kids are Muslim, and the school board mandates a policy the all students participate in "the Islamic call to prayer" Republicans don't have a problem with that...? that is also your opinion.
Well I have a serious problem with your opinion, we do we need a national school curriculum that educates our young minds without the restraint imposed upon then by any religious beliefs. We need a national curriculum that educates our precious young to compete in a world economy.
note: public schools can teach religion all day long, just keep it in social studies class.
Dale Murrish
8:36 pm on Monday, February 27, 2012
Santorum was making the point that not everyone is wired for college; people need electricians and plumbers. There is dignity in all honest work. The class warfare must end.