Driver, 3-Year-Old Involved in 23 Mile and Hayes Crash Die

The driver of a vehicle that ran a red light last night at 23 Mile Road and Hayes, hitting a minivan carrying a family of five, has passed away. A 3-year-old child passenger in the minivan has also died.

A 3-year-old passenger and the female driver of a vehicle involved in a crash Monday night on 23 Mile Road have passed away, according the the Shelby Township police.

The crash, which occurred around 8:45 p.m. at the intersection of 23 Mile and Hayes roads sent all six people involved, including three children, to the hospital.

Police said the woman who died was driving an Oldsmobile west on 23 Mile Road when she ran a red light and hit a minivan traveling south on Hayes Road. There were five people in the minivan, an adult male and female and three children.

Doug Goad, owner of the Corner Clock Restaurant at the corner of 23 and Hayes, said he was serving dinner when patrons in the restaurant screamed after witnessesing the crash.

Goad said he called 911, and ran out to help. The father of the children climbed back into the van and handed the 3-year-old out the window to people on the streets, he said.

Goad, , said he and a nurse on scene tried to resuscitate the child until paramedics arrived. 

"We laid her down on the grass, and the nurse started pumping her chest to get blood flow back, and she asked me to give mouth-to-mouth resuscitation, and she came back a few times," he said choking back tears.

The child's mother was trapped in the front of the vehicle and had to be extracited by the Jaws of Life, according to Goad.

Meanwhile, people at the scene worked to free the driver of the Oldsmobile from the vehicle until police arrived.

Police have not released the names of the driver of the victims in the crash until all family has been notified.

Shelby Township Police Chief Roland Woelkers did say the child is from Macomb Township and the driver who died was from Sterling Heights.

Woelkers told Patch the other children and one adult were treated and released from the hospital. The mother of the three children remains hospitalized.

Preliminary investigations reveal the female driver who died may have been drinking, Woelkers said.

The intersection was re-opened several hours after the crash.

This accident is currently under investigation, and anyone who may have witnessed it is asked to call the Shelby Township Police Department at 586-731-2121.

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friend July 05, 2012 at 03:07 PM
Why haven't we been told who this woman is yet? Why are things so tight? I understand about our friend's daughter since she was minor but why not the driver who is dead? Is she connected to someone important? All I can say is that funeral was the most horrific thing I have ever experienced. No one should ever have to bury a young child. The fact that she was taken so suddenly is the worst part. I just hope we learn one thing from this tragic event, don't drink and drive. Please plan ahead before you make dumb choices and drive. No one says you can't have fun with friends and family, but make choices BEFORE heading out to have fun. Remember everytime you get behind the wheel drunk, you could kill your own child, family member, or friend. My thoughts are with our friends who lost their beautiful baby girl!!
Angelo July 05, 2012 at 09:59 PM
I think everyone needs to step back and look at the Mini Van they were driving. My Father was killed after someone ran a stop sign in Detroit 5 months ago. No alchohal involved, but poor design of the mini van from Chrysler. He was hit by a small newer Toyota traveling around 35mph the police said. He was wearing a seat belt and had the side air bags. He died cause the sliding door failed to prevent intrusion into the vans side like it is supposed to. Yes a supposed drunk hit the van and that is a total tragic loss either way, but I totally believe the little girl would be alive today if the Van was built safer. I could see from the photos that the door separated from the B post and entered the Van sticking the girl the same way it struck my father and Numerous other children and adults alike who have been killed the same way since this new style Chrysler van was released. Says Five Star side impact yet I know of at least 21 people who have died from side impact side door failure since my Father was killed in what he thought was a safe van. Look it up for yourselves and make sure Chrysler and Insurance Company don't destroy the Van before they can be held responsible for faulty design.
2cents July 06, 2012 at 12:39 AM
Hey... Greiving too... did you satisfy your morbid curiosity by attending the funeral? Did you get a good look at the grief? Did you get a good look at the angel the your relative put in a minature casket? Not only did your looser relative ROB my family of a life, but by attending the funeral, and not revealing yourselves you have also robbed them of a private, personal moment - saying good bye to their little girl. How completely disrespectful and disgusting! For that act alone you are no better than her! My guess is that someone in your family knew she should not be on the road or even have a drivers license! Am I right? I think I am. Someone had to know... but just looked past it. And now my family is paying for it.
2cents July 06, 2012 at 12:40 AM
If her husband was so distraught about having to pull the plug... should have called me I could have easily yanked it out for him!
Sara July 07, 2012 at 02:20 PM
I can't believe some of these comments have not been removed. I'm rather disappointed.
An angry mother July 08, 2012 at 12:38 PM
1. I highly doubt you know any of the same cops, because if you did, you would understand that they will not lose their jobs for this info. They did not share the drivers name with anyone, therefore to all of us, we just refer to her as the moron driver who murdered a little girl. Nothing was breached, nothing was discussed in an illegal manner. Furthermore, her blood alcohol content is a matter of PUBLIC record when it goes on the police report. It is NOT protected information. Perhaps you should read up on your laws, in particular the HIPPA laws, before you start accusing us of breaking them. We do not know your loved ones name, address, or identifying factors , therefore nothing was breached. You also have a lot of nerve questioning whether or not we are law-abiding citizens. We obey the law, we respect the law, and most importantly, we respect life. I wish I could say the same for your loved one. Making the decision to drink and drive clearly indicates her lack of respect for life, both for her own and for others on the road. That being said, you must understand the pure anger and hatred that is COMPLETELY natural for this family to be experiencing at this time. You may not think that it is fair, that it is warranted, or that it is right, but the truth of the matter is, it IS natural for us to experience anger in a situation like this.
Dennis July 08, 2012 at 02:47 PM
"the moron driver who murdered a little girl" would be an identifying factor. "blood alcohol content is a matter of PUBLIC record when it goes on the police report" any officer involved cannot discuss an open investigation. "in particular the HIPPA laws... We do not know ... identifying factors" - the ER doctor is in direct violation of HIPPA, and cannot discuss any patient's info with ANYONE, EVER, even post mortem. You may have just opened the Dr and hospital to a lawsuit as their identities are easily attained and tied to this incident. You may feel entitled to know in this case, but fact is confidentiality laws were broken. I understand the anger and hate, but it prevents healing. Some people find comfort in their faith. May you find peace, and Godspeed to your family through this tragedy and loss.
An angry mother July 08, 2012 at 03:14 PM
Lets just be clear, "an angry mother" is NOT the mother of the little girl killed. And no, confidentiality wasn't breached. I would encourage you to look into the HIPPA laws again. I can assure you, they were not broken. Furthermore, it was NOT any officer INVOLVED in the crash that discussed this information. And if you feel compelled to try to sue the hospital for this, go for it, it just further proves the integrity of your character.
An angry mother July 08, 2012 at 03:17 PM
And for the record, anger does NOT prevent healing. It has been 2 weeks since she was killed. ANY mother would be angry at this point in the grieving process. Have you even heard of the seven stages of grief? Do you remember that anger is one of them? This is natural and completely normal. In fact, many psychiatrists, counselors, and therapists would agree that anger IS necessary in the healing process, especially this soon after a tragedy. I can assure you that the family DOES find comfort in their faith and faith that the Lord will carry them through this tragedy. Just because they are angry, does not mean they are not faithful or trusting in God.
Dennis July 08, 2012 at 03:36 PM
HIPPA states clearly, in simplest terms and by its very genesis, that patient information is not to be discussed with ANYONE but the patient. Period. As for officer, ANY officer is not allowed to discuss an ongoing investigation. I'm not suing anyone, but could understand the other family pursuing defamation of character, release of protected information, etc. Remember, like them/her or not, another family is grieving, too. Try to show some compassion for them, if not her.
Dennis July 08, 2012 at 03:41 PM
Anger is the 3rd stage, healing begins with/after the 5th stage, which doesn't begin until the prior stages have completed... hence my position. Again, thoughts to the family.
An angry mother July 08, 2012 at 05:02 PM
Dennis, I do have MUCH compassion for the family. I do not blame them or think poorly of the family, it was not their fault that their loved one made a poor decision. My point about HIPPA was that no identifiable factors regarding the patient were given. i.e. I do not know her name, birthdate, residence, etc therefore I do not KNOW the patient. I simply know there was a woman who was seen in the ER, had died, and had twice the legal limit of blood alcohol. This is not violating HIPPA. If it had, then there would be breaches every day seeing as doctors discuss cases daily with people not involved in the patient's care. For example, each week different departments of hospitals have Morbidity and Mortality lectures in which they discuss patient cases. This is not a breach of HIPPA since no identifying factors are given. I am very familiar with HIPPA as I work in the health care field. HIPPA does not simply state that patient information can not be discussed with anyone but the patient. It simply states that their privacy must be held and in this case, since I do not know this woman from any other stranger on the street, HIPPA was upheld.
An angry mother July 08, 2012 at 05:04 PM
I just wanted to be clear that anger does not PREVENT healing as much as it is a part of the grieving process. This family has a long road ahead of them and it will be several years before they can even consider feeling 'healed.' Thank you for your thoughts to the family, as I am sure they appreciate it greatly.
macombresident July 08, 2012 at 05:30 PM
Why hasn't the name of the driver been released yet?
Dennis July 08, 2012 at 06:46 PM
Doctors, in the course of study, are exempt from generalized HIPPA regulations as the info is not made 'public'. Fact is, you are NOT a health care worker involved with this patient, therefore, you are 'the public' and are in violation. You absolutely have enough info to KNOW the patient, and when police release her name, you will know even more... substantiating your violation. Do what you want, but IMO you are not compliant with HIPPA.
smooth July 09, 2012 at 02:02 AM
Probably the most sensible post I've seen regarding this incident.
penny July 09, 2012 at 07:01 PM
If you read all comments, clearly someone was told by er docters or staff about her mental and psychological issues, (if she did have any) that sounds like a breach of confidentialality to me!! how else would anyone get that info? .
Ed Lindsey July 10, 2012 at 02:22 PM
Lets not blame the person that was drinking. Lets blame the traffic lights at the intersection. I 'am the grand-father of my one and only grand-daughter Megan Thomas. She was murdered on Mar,17th 2006 just by another drunk driver here in America. How can you personally stop drunk driving? Go to the web site below. The web site belongs to a writer in Arizona and her name is Julianne Evans. She has put what happened to our grand-daughter on her site. Read and look at the slideshows and they will tell you on how you can stop drunk driving. Do not let your family or friends tell you their final words as they lay dying such as our grand-daughter told my wife the night that she died. "Grammy I Can Not Breathe!" Leave a comment for Julianne and she will respond to you. Julianne Evans Web Site: http://aevans.hubpages.com/hub/Megan-Madeline-Thomas-Murdered-By-Jacob-J-Herbert-of-Susquehanna-Pennsylvania-Being-Paroled
Dennis July 10, 2012 at 03:55 PM
Im not sure there will ever be public follow up info, as I dont recall this event making mainstream media (no disrespect, Patch). I'm not sure about obtaining either party's names doing any good, but more info from the investigation could put speculation to rest. Maybe Patch could inquire?
Marina Cracchiolo (Editor) July 10, 2012 at 04:12 PM
I have tried to follow up with police on this story but they have been very tight-lipped. Since the investigation remains open, they won't release a police report. They are not releasing the victim or the driver's name and they said the BAC report will only show up on the toxicology report, which can take up to 6 weeks. I am really sorry. I have nothing new to report.
Just my opinion July 11, 2012 at 03:02 AM
Thank you Ed drunk drivers are murderers!!! I'm so sorry about your granddaughter!! As we have discovered the loss and pain is overwhelming! The only traffic light problem is the one the murderer blatantly ignored as she blew thru it DRUNK at over 60mph!!
Just my opinion July 11, 2012 at 03:21 AM
And don't worry macomb resident name of the murderer all in good time!
Just my opinion July 11, 2012 at 03:44 AM
And hey Angelo? Really? The van design? Ed can you believe the brilliance of society? Let's blame van design, the bright sunlight, traffic lights!! THERE IS NO RESPONSIBLITY in today's society!!! Blame everyone or everything else! You can design a van like a tank but it gets hit at over 60 mph by a piece of garbage boat of a car a tiny body has next to no chance. Its a matter of physics. You all need to stop and put the blame where it belongs. And for whoever can't do that I suspect you think it's ok to get behind the wheel with any amount of alcohol in your system. Any amount of alcohol is impaired and in today's society it's almost always coupled with drugs. And I'm placing my bets here and now that will be the case here also.
Angelo July 11, 2012 at 10:55 PM
Hey Just My Opinion, yes I know a supposed Drunk killed your Family. My point was that the little girl would have stood a better chance if the Van was designed better. Your family is not the only one who has lost a child in a side impact collision in that peticular newer minivan. There are dozens of other Families who have lost their children because of a design flaw. I'm trying to bring attention to this because no matter who hits you, Drunk, Sober, on Drugs, Texting, Talking on a Phone, Eating food, Sun in their eyes, Lights timed wrong, etc.. More people will die here. I'm in no way defending this person and don't know how you even get that from my post about my father who was killed by someone sober and hit at only 35 mph not driving a piece of Garbage boat as you say. I think they need to change the Laws about Driving Drunk. You kill someone and you charged with Manslaughter. 2 years. That's a bunch of BULL. you drink, you Drive it's Murder 1st Degree no Questions Asked. But I'm just trying to make a point, the Van is not safe in a side impact weather 20 Mph or 60Mph. It can be made safer especially since its the number one selling minivans and sole purpose is for families to drive. I just want to stop more kids from becoming a statistic, another family torn from their child. THAT'S ALL!!
Just my opinion July 16, 2012 at 01:21 PM
No.....not a "supposed" drunk! Let's be clear she was clearly drunk the details are well known and when I can her name will be listed here in capital letters for the world to see. And maybe the van does have design flaws but at this time in my life and the life of our family nothing matters but the senselessness of the murderess drunk driver.
Just my opinion July 17, 2012 at 01:17 AM
Grieving too..... Not sure what nastiness you might be referring to?? Just wanted to clear up the repeated confusion about the legitimacy of the drunken state the killer was in. And really did you just mention the purchase of a new vehicle!?! Are you kidding me!!?? Like its just another sunny day and maybe the family might like to go get a new van! This just demonstrates the clear lack of intelligence and "think before you speak "mentality. And further there is no "fun " here and if it's fun you're having there are places for you to be admitted. Keeping people on point and keeping the focus on drunk driving and the person who did it is my issue. She doesn't get off becasue she took the easy way out and killed herself in the process. So while I'm busy being angry you can bet all the focus is going to be on mizz DB. Don't think I'm bluffing on the name. I'll leave the whole name up to other people. In the meantime keep talking because I have a lot to say about impaired (alcoholic, narcotic, psychotic) beg a dr, buy it off the streets, get it from a bartender AND GET IN A VEHICLE and DRIVE killers!
Just my opinion July 17, 2012 at 06:30 PM
A "remarkable" person because she didn't seek help for her multitude of issues!! Had she sought help for her issues she may not have went on a murderous drive in a vehicle on June 25! Remarkable and DB in the same sentence makes me sick! and the people that knew her shouldnt be shocked at all....or you really couldn't have known her as well as you claim now could you?? . What a bunch of great friends and family that someone didn't intervene long before she dug herself an early grave and took a little girl with her. So yes that easily makes all of you guilty for not reining in that self destructive behavior before it injured someone else. If you truly know and love someone it's very easy to recognize. There is absolutely nothing "remarkable" about this dead woman or any of you associated with her. What would have been remarkable is if one of you who claim to have known her so well would have gotten her some help.....apparently 40 yrs ago! What a train wreck of a life...
Marina Cracchiolo (Editor) July 17, 2012 at 07:50 PM
Please be respectful to each other on this forum. Patch is a place where the community can engage in conversation and everyone is allowed to express their opinion, so long it doesn't violate the terms of use, which include no name calling, swearing or slander. Comments that are not in line with Patch's terms of use will be deleted. Thank you, Marina.
Sammy V. September 15, 2012 at 02:43 PM
There is way too much drinking and driving around here.
carmen miskeley January 09, 2013 at 02:49 AM
My prayers and thoughts are never going to be with the families of this driver who inflicted so much pain and suffering on my cousins family. THE roads are crazy enough out there without these kind of sick people on them! PLEASE pray and support the victims family and this i ask you in the name oh the Father, Holy Father in Heaven and may God look out and confort you all in the years ahead! ALL My Love CARMEN


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